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Question about Pedophiles
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 30 2015, 03:27 AM (3,854 Views)
~~StrawHatCrew~~	Jul 30 2015, 03:27 AM Post #1
Posts: 4,004 Group: Suspended Member #9,708 Joined: July 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball (Z), Captain Tsubasa, Naruto (Original) Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, One-Piece	This is a serious thread. Do you think people shouldn't be so quick to look down on pedophiles or at-least not talk ill of the illness? There are a lot of pedophiles that obviously do the bad, but then there are some who might have such problems, but do not commit those crimes. Some pedophiles might have the illness, but also wouldn't do something like that because they know it's wrong, but are too ashamed or embarrassed to come out, and therefore do not get proper treatment. These people might get depressed by the thought of something being wrong with them, which might lead to things such as suicide. I mean it is also an illness, and society obviously does shun the people that might have such thoughts, but as a society shouldn't we encourage to get those people who genuinely do have the problem to get themselves proper treatment? I mean the ones who know it's wrong, but struggle everyday with the thought of there being something wrong with them. The ones that are maybe decent enough to know that it's obviously not right, and therefore don't do the crimes. Some of them might really not be able to help the thought since it is a mental illness, are we in the right to look down on those people or the illness, even if they haven't done anything wrong yet?



+ QueenTD	Jul 30 2015, 03:51 AM Post #2
My Dear Melancholy, Posts: 4,480 Group: Elite Member Member #11,589 Joined: August 8, 2014 Gender Female Country United States	We have found ways to help pedophiles which is good. http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/article/2014/02/25/chemical-castration/ I'm sure some which they wasn't. They're strong people to resist their urges. It's hard. Here's another great website. http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1658-5-ways-were-making-pedophilia-worse.html It is extremely important not to confuse pedophilia with child molestation. People can't separate because they're taught to.
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+ Ginyu	Jul 30 2015, 07:18 AM Post #3
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	It's not even an illness, it's a sexuality. It's like homosexuality or heterosexuality. Problem is, children can't consent, therefore pedophiles can't act on their urges and not be molesting a child. Homosexuals and heterosexuals can. Pedophiles are doomed being attracted to children and as long as they don't act on their urges I see no problem with them in society.
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~~StrawHatCrew~~	Jul 30 2015, 10:21 AM Post #4
Posts: 4,004 Group: Suspended Member #9,708 Joined: July 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball (Z), Captain Tsubasa, Naruto (Original) Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, One-Piece	But we condemn them, even-though they obviously can't help it since it is a disorder of sorts. When we hear pedophile, we are always like "GTFO".



Rockman	Jul 30 2015, 10:45 AM Post #5
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	StrawHatCrew Jul 30 2015, 10:21 AM But we condemn them, even-though they obviously can't help it since it is a disorder of sorts. When we hear pedophile, we are always like "GTFO". Protecting the child is more important than protecting the adult. Children lack the understanding and cognitive thought necessary to make proper decisions in this scenario. They are also physically weaker. But you're right. Society lacks support for these types of individuals. It's something that is mostly neural and hormonal, and we just don't understand enough about properly fixing it.
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+ Pointer	Jul 30 2015, 10:51 AM Post #6
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	for me "helping" pedophiles is like helping serial killers. I mean its not like society willingly allow the serial killer to hunt down regular people just for to fit their urges..... They are can not be helped



~~StrawHatCrew~~	Jul 30 2015, 10:58 AM Post #7
Posts: 4,004 Group: Suspended Member #9,708 Joined: July 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball (Z), Captain Tsubasa, Naruto (Original) Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, One-Piece	I meant more as in encourage the few people who know something isn't "right" with them to get help. We obviously look down on them, and whenever pedophilia is mentioned on TV, the face is blurred out and some creepy music and voice-over plays in the back (exaggerated). Even pedophiles probably know this, and that's why they are afraid of coming out of the closet and getting proper psychological help. Even some killers might know something is wrong with them, why shouldn't we tell them to get some serious treatment instead of giving them the awkward look? Edited by StrawHatCrew, Jul 30 2015, 11:10 AM.



+ Sandy Shore	Jul 30 2015, 11:16 AM Post #8
Posts: 1,860 Group: Elite Member Member #12,337 Joined: May 18, 2015	StrawHatCrew, why did you give Dexter Morgan a thumbs up after seemingly agreeing with the other posters? What Pointer has essentially said is: "they can not not be helped. Just wait until they do something wrong, then we can punish them". A moronic statement. With that attitude, you'll never prevent the real problem - children getting abused. By extending sympathy to another victim—for they are, victims of their own biology and/or mentality—and allowing them to seek help without the fear of getting punished, before they've done any thing wrong, you may inadvertently save/improve their life while, more importantly, preventing future victims.



+ Pointer	Jul 30 2015, 11:21 AM Post #9
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Lazuli Jul 30 2015, 11:16 AM StrawHatCrew, why did you give Dexter Morgan a thumbs up after seemingly agreeing with the other posters? What Pointer has essentially said is: "they can not not be helped. Just wait until they do something wrong, then we can punish them". A moronic statement. With that attitude, you'll never prevent the real problem - children getting abused. By extending sympathy to another victim—for they are, victims of their own biology and/or mentality—and allowing them to seek help without the fear of getting punished, before they've done any thing wrong, you may inadvertently save/improve their life while, more importantly, preventing future victims. I meant we can not help them to act freely to satisfy their urges. I didnt mean to bury them just because they are sick



+ Sandy Shore	Jul 30 2015, 11:30 AM Post #10
Posts: 1,860 Group: Elite Member Member #12,337 Joined: May 18, 2015	But no one has suggested anyone help them get their kicks. It's about coping methods; not demonising them so much that they retreat in to a darker, more vulnerable place. You made it sound as if they were lost causes, destined to fulfill their desires.



+ Ginyu	Jul 30 2015, 11:45 AM Post #11
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Dexter Morgan Jul 30 2015, 10:51 AM for me "helping" pedophiles is like helping serial killers. I mean its not like society willingly allow the serial killer to hunt down regular people just for to fit their urges..... They are can not be helped Not all pedophiles are child molesters. All serial killers however are killers. Otherwise they wouldn't be serial killers. Same goes for them, if a person has urges to kill someone but never actually acts on their urges and doesn't kill, there is no problem. Serial killers get punished when they kill, pedophiles get punished when they molest, you need to understand that a killer is a killer but a pedophile is not necessarily a child molester.
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Buuberries	Jul 30 2015, 12:20 PM Post #12
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	GinyuTokusentai Jul 30 2015, 07:18 AM It's not even an illness, it's a sexuality. It's like homosexuality or heterosexuality. Problem is, children can't consent, therefore pedophiles can't act on their urges and not be molesting a child. Homosexuals and heterosexuals can. Pedophiles are doomed being attracted to children and as long as they don't act on their urges I see no problem with them in society. It isn't a sexuality at all. It's a paraphilia. Paedophiles can be homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, and whatever other sexual orientations exist these days. One can't be homosexual and heterosexual at the same time. Edited by Buuberries, Jul 30 2015, 12:22 PM.
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+ Steve	Jul 30 2015, 05:04 PM Post #13
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	General question here, do you think people should actually be notified when someone is a paedophile? Like when they haven't done something. Should people be warned that they might or should the paedophile be able to live free from judgement unless they do something to a child? I'm not sure how to feel about that, on the one hand the mere mention of potentially being a paedophile has you vilified for life. Good luck getting a job or any sort of respect from people who know. But on the other hand it could put children in danger and nobody will be able to suspect a thing until it happens, which will likely ruin the child's life. I guess they could remain anonymous so long as they're actively getting help for it...but still if you have a child I'm sure you'd like to know just in case. Being helped doesn't necessarily mean they won't eventually act on their desires anything could set them off really.
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+ Emmeth	Jul 30 2015, 05:27 PM Post #14
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	I don't understand how people can believe in something when pedophiles are born into the world. They say you don't choose your sexuality, then God is cruel. Why would he willingly create something that was attracted to children? Or is it society that has created this norm that pedophiles should be shunned? And being incestous too for that matter. If you don't choose your sexuality, which is debatable, it's beyond my understanding why pedophiles exist.
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* Yu Narukami	Jul 30 2015, 05:33 PM Post #15
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Steve Jul 30 2015, 05:04 PM General question here, do you think people should actually be notified when someone is a paedophile? Like when they haven't done something. Should people be warned that they might or should the paedophile be able to live free from judgement unless they do something to a child? I'm not sure how to feel about that, on the one hand the mere mention of potentially being a paedophile has you vilified for life. Good luck getting a job or any sort of respect from people who know. But on the other hand it could put children in danger and nobody will be able to suspect a thing until it happens, which will likely ruin the child's life. I guess they could remain anonymous so long as they're actively getting help for it...but still if you have a child I'm sure you'd like to know just in case. Being helped doesn't necessarily mean they won't eventually act on their desires anything could set them off really. Out of curiosity, how would you identify a paedophile if they haven't committed a crime yet? The only way you'd be able to tell is if they either get themselves help or they commit a crime. If the former is true, why would you socially murder them? If the latter is true, we already have a system for that, iirc.



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